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Webgem
Dec 13th 2006, 8:52 pm
Wednesday, December 13, 2006
Report: Cubs Sign Floyd
According to WFAN in New York, the Cubs have signed Cliff Floyd to one year deal, worth around 6 million dollars. Although this still may be a rumor, it has been reported all week that he was looking to sign with the Cubs. Floyd, who was burdened with injuries all year, will probably platoon with Matt Murton in left field. Floyd, 34, batted .244 with 11 HR and 44 RBI. He is a career .279 hitter who is also being pursued by the Orioles, Rangers, and Mariners.
What do you guys think?
HOLYCOW!25
Dec 13th 2006, 8:55 pm
It's nice to have him, but our whole outfield is messed up now with who's playing what positions. I would like to have Murton playing everyday, but maybe this also means JJ is leaving. I just hope Murton doesn't leave. I mean, I don't want JJ to leave either honestly, but if I had to pick one of the 2 to trade off, I'd choose JJ.
Shwerve
Dec 13th 2006, 8:58 pm
Looks like he would be in a platoon situation w/ Murton. Depth is nice.
dundeecub
Dec 13th 2006, 9:01 pm
its interesting, particularly the permutations regarding the of.
assuming jones is traded (presumably for another starter - i dont care about prior/miller/marshall, it wouldnt hurt: we're the cubs) i would prefer an of lineup of:
murton - lf
floyd/pagan - cf
soriano - rf
as for jones: what i've been saying since marquis was signed - or "settled", he's coming, isn't he? ;) : who are we supposed to be trading jones for? having said that i have been hearing about crawford, and if we had to send jones and marshall thats fine by me!
our bench seems to be done though: blanco, ward, theriot, pagan, floyd - assuming neither floyd/pagan starting cf, which imo v. unlikely
Shwerve
Dec 13th 2006, 9:03 pm
Unfortunately, I think I started the Crawford talk. There is no legitimacy to that. He would be sexy in Cubby blue though.
Shwerve
Dec 13th 2006, 9:05 pm
Is there room for Cedeno?
dundeecub
Dec 13th 2006, 9:17 pm
damn you shwerve, i liked that rumour.
as for cedeno, i've never had room for him on my roster, and from what i remember lou saying its going to be either theriot or cedeno as backup infield and theriot was more likely.
i agree with lou totally, (its no secret on this board that i love ryan!) he hits better than ronnie, and can field more positions. look for cedeno either to go in trade or being the starting ss at iowa (dp combo with EPatt, a vision of the future?).
of course if we don't get floyd, and trade jones for another pitcher then theriot may be more of a backup of'er (cos he's that versatile!) which may mean room for ronnie.
Shwerve
Dec 13th 2006, 9:27 pm
I don't disagree dundee. I am a big fan of Theriot. I really like the way he plays. Most people say nothing about Cedeno. Just checking
Maybe before you go to bed, you should kneel at your bedside and pray for Crawford
dundeecub
Dec 13th 2006, 9:34 pm
Maybe before you go to bed, you should kneel at your bedside and pray for Crawford
on a purely secular level that won't be happening, but in my own, special, atheist way, i shall cross my fingers and touch the wood laminate of my desk.
Yaow
Dec 13th 2006, 9:34 pm
Im glad to hear that we signed Floyd. Just in case somebody gets hurt we got a solid bat to replace them with *provided he stays healthy himself*
Hopefully barring the signing/trade of a huge all star caliber player, our team is complete and ready to go.
I like the look of this team. We are going to have a solid year.
Shwerve
Dec 13th 2006, 9:38 pm
Well we'll be solid as soon as we trade Izzy for ARod and JJ for Crawford and Marquis for Santana
Shwerve
Dec 13th 2006, 9:38 pm
Crown their @sses!
dundeecub
Dec 13th 2006, 9:42 pm
[QUOTE=Yaow;4191]Hopefully barring the signing/trade of a huge all star caliber player, our team is complete and ready to go.QUOTE]
Well, quite, you can put together the whole 25 man at this point.
Barrett, Dlee, Derosa, Izzy, Aram, Soriano, Murton, Jones*; Blanco, Ward, Theriot, Floyd, Pagan; Z, Lilly, Hill, Prior, Marquis; Demp (cl), Howry, Eyre, Wood, Cotts, Ohman, Miller
Brutus T Manstrength
Dec 13th 2006, 9:44 pm
I'll tell you why I'm not impressed with this particular pickup: I like matt murton more than I like Floyd. I mean, Murton was great last year.. and only has up to go.. why punish a guy for having a great year?
dundeecub
Dec 13th 2006, 9:44 pm
Well we'll be solid as soon as we trade Izzy for ARod and JJ for Crawford and Marquis for Santana
how very cubs.com!
Shwerve
Dec 13th 2006, 9:50 pm
how very cubs.com!
Ha! Should I say something about Hendry now?
Brutus T Manstrength
Dec 13th 2006, 9:52 pm
Hendry's a flaming pile of dog poo! I could do his job and the groundskeeping at wrigley. And keep my other full time job. And I'd do better.
there, took care of it for you.
P-Ram
Dec 13th 2006, 10:03 pm
cubs picked up a great player
the only thing im concerned with is the playing time of matt murton
and it also makes me wonder if jacque jones is getting dealt
Waveland007
Dec 14th 2006, 7:06 am
Floys is a stud when healthy, I like this move. We aren't relying on him to carry us so it's a great risk for us to take.
newt07
Dec 14th 2006, 7:44 am
Hendry was just on ESPN radio and he never mentioned signing Floyd. he did make a comment that if you could hit left handed he would sign you. does this mean he is still looking?
Waveland007
Dec 14th 2006, 7:55 am
no he was just joking with Golic, they never asked him about Floyd he only commented on players they asked about. Floyd hasn't taken a physicle and he probably hasn't agreed to terms yet so it's normal not to comment.
roenick99
Dec 14th 2006, 8:11 am
Is there room for Cedeno?
Several quotes from Hendry himself did not sound good for Cedano. He makes him look like a long shot at best to make the big league club. I think his time has come and gone unless he blows everyone away in ST.
NeifiPerezMVP2007
Dec 14th 2006, 10:55 am
Im not shure I like this. We will see more right handers that left. I fear that Murton won't get his AB. But on the other side, Floyd is a good hitter if healthy of course, but at wrigley he could hit 30-40 homers if playing alot. Also im not sold that the Cubs have signed him. Theres no other link out there I can find and what about the Seattle talk?????:confused: :confused: :confused:
ryno23hof
Dec 14th 2006, 2:29 pm
There isn't a web site out there with any news of a Floyd signing. We do not need him , Murton is only going to get better. We have enough firepower in the lineup to allow him some growing pains for another year , if need be. I thought he did just fine last year and would like to see him start in left all year. Floyd would just be $$$ spent that we don't need to. I would much rather keep Jones from the left side than move him and sign Floyd.
Al Spanglers ghost
Dec 14th 2006, 4:19 pm
Jones does not want to be a Cub.He didn,t like getting booed when he got off to a bad start last year,and felt the fans were unfair to Dusty.Juan Pierre felt the same way.I say don't let the door hit you in the a** on your way out!!
I wonder if Boston might be willing to part with Coco Crisp,for Jones.Crisp is a good cf,a switch hitter with speed and some power.He was hurt a lot of last season but had a couple of good seasons with the Indians.the Red Sox have Willy Mo Pena who could play center for them with JJ in right.With the signing of JD Drew I would think Boston would be a possible match for a trade.I would hate to rush Pie into a starting job to soon,and ruin what should be a bright future.
I also would love for Hendry to sign Aubry Huff instead of Cliff Floyd.I know he would cost more.but he would be a better value.He is younger,and less injury prone.He could platoon with Murton in left and would be a great insurance policy at 3B and 1B if,heaven forbid,A-Ram or D-Lee miss any time do to injury,and be a terrific left handed bat off the bench in late inning pinch hit situations.
Webgem
Dec 14th 2006, 5:34 pm
Cliff Floyd Update
My report last night stating Cliff Floyd had agreed to a deal with the Cubs was not far off. According to Jerry Crasnick, the Cubs are "moving closer" to signing Cliff Floyd and expect a deal to be done next week. The Mariners are also interested in signing Floyd, but Floyd has voiced his desire to play in Chicago. Floyd hit .244 with 11 homers in 97 games last year with the Mets. The Cubs plan to announce the signing of Ted Lilly tomorrow, and Daryle Ward and Jason Marquis next week.
Source: ESPN.com (insider)
This is from mlb-rumors.blogspot:)
Ivy Killa
Dec 14th 2006, 6:00 pm
Several quotes from Hendry himself did not sound good for Cedano. He makes him look like a long shot at best to make the big league club. I think his time has come and gone unless he blows everyone away in ST.
did he say anything about Pagan's role in 07 and is there a link to hear that?
I wonder if Boston might be willing to part with Coco Crisp,for Jones.Crisp is a good cf,a switch hitter with speed and some power..
that would be tight, i doubt it would ever happen though...........i'm still missing Patterson. How cool would that have been to have both Pattersons at 2nd and CF.
bringbacktuffy
Dec 14th 2006, 11:45 pm
i dont think boston would part with coco crisp, them acquiring jj through a trade would cause them a similar issue thats going on here, a log jam at the outfield corners and no true CF. im not really high on the cliff floyd signing unless its a bargain and he doesnt mind being a role player, ie spelling murton and jones here and there and pinch hitting. keep in mind we do have a yound guy in buck coates who looks promising and could use a few more reps at the big league level. if we sign or make a trade it has to be for a true CF. im really starting to wish we went after lofton, but so it goes.
newt07
Dec 15th 2006, 6:09 am
I guess the big question is do we really know If Jones can play CF. I think many have just assumed that he can't. He was a CF'r before he moved to RF. It would seem that he has been written off just because of some things he may or may not have said, or even how he may feel.
Winning changes the way many players think and feel. This team has a chance to do just that, and with his bat in this lineup, he could do alot of damage and play a decent CF.
bringbacktuffy
Dec 15th 2006, 9:45 am
He certainly could and as things stand thats our best option.
Webgem
Dec 20th 2006, 5:54 pm
Look like it's going to happen
Cubs to sign OF Floyd
The Cubs are close to signing free agent Cliff Floyd to an incentive-laden deal.
While it's disappointing that Matt Murton is getting turned into a platoon player after putting together a great second half last season and finishing with a .297/.365/.444 line, Floyd likely will be an upgrade when healthy, and since the 34-year-old is a poor bet to play in even 120-130 games, Murton still figures to approach 400 at-bats. Dec. 20 - 4:03 pm et
Source: Chicago Tribune
HOLYCOW!25
Dec 20th 2006, 6:38 pm
As long as he stays healthy.
Webgem
Dec 20th 2006, 6:42 pm
As long as he stays healthy.
I agree....The guy can hit if he's healthy....:)
mickeyrom51
Dec 20th 2006, 7:48 pm
Floyd....oh noooooooooo:mad:
mickeyrom51
Dec 20th 2006, 7:49 pm
Floyd....oh noooooooooo:mad:
bringbacktuffy
Dec 21st 2006, 9:29 am
Im not too high on Floyd either. Something tells me he wont be happy on the bench and I DO NOT want Murton in a platoon situation.
Ivy Killa
Dec 21st 2006, 11:55 am
I just found this on chicagosports.com, I found rather interesting.
Hendry declined comment on a Tribune report that the Cubs were closing in on an agreement with free-agent outfielder Cliff Floyd. Cubs sources say the two sides have yet to close a deal, although sources close to Floyd indicate he has told friends he soon will be signing with the Cubs. The team has examined Floyd's medical records and may be waiting to deal Jacque Jones before getting Floyd under contract.
Sheffield_&_Waveland
Dec 21st 2006, 12:21 pm
Not real big on having Floyd in Chicago, well of course unless it was on the south side because he is a risk with injury. He can sit on their DL and draw a pay check but would rather he not sign with the Cubs.
mickeyrom51
Dec 21st 2006, 12:40 pm
I just found this on chicagosports.com, I found rather interesting.
Hendry declined comment on a Tribune report that the Cubs were closing in on an agreement with free-agent outfielder Cliff Floyd. Cubs sources say the two sides have yet to close a deal, although sources close to Floyd indicate he has told friends he soon will be signing with the Cubs. The team has examined Floyd's medical records and may be waiting to deal Jacque Jones before getting Floyd under contract.
Why?He is no improvement over Jones.Actually it would be a notch or two below.
Sheffield_&_Waveland
Dec 21st 2006, 12:51 pm
Why?He is no improvement over Jones.Actually it would be a notch or two below.
I think the only reason this happens is because Jones isn't happy. Jones has had some issues in the past with throwing but his offense was not bad by any means last year and he would fit in the line up better than Floyd will.
P-Ram
Dec 21st 2006, 12:56 pm
getting floyd is huger then anyone knows
this guy is a team leader and he was on the mets
he doesnt stand for any rookie crap or not hustling
GOOD PICK UP!
Drockvb
Dec 21st 2006, 4:43 pm
I remember having fun with Floyd, back years ago. It was a cold drizzly April day at Wrigley. Not alot of people in the bleachers, and Floyd was a Marlin.
After a few Old Style's we began to sing to him, "How can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat".
Shwerve
Dec 21st 2006, 9:11 pm
and he was on the mets? That doesn't impress me. I'm ok with Floyd as long as he is not an everyday outfielder. He has always had health concerns. Is he capable? sure. I am not a fan of taking away ABs from Murton at this point.
Shwerve
Dec 21st 2006, 9:11 pm
I'm a rookie!
P-Ram
Dec 22nd 2006, 4:21 pm
psh still a little leaguer here haha
cubbyfanforever
Dec 22nd 2006, 5:00 pm
I like Murton to play 85-90% of the time,we seen Murton go in this funk where he got in a slump,when that happens I will be glad to see Floyd out there .
bringbacktuffy
Dec 22nd 2006, 5:58 pm
any manager will say you have to hit your way out of a slump, but i agree if the floyd signing happens Murton had better get a mojority of the playing time.
Left Field Tim
Dec 25th 2006, 8:19 pm
getting floyd is huger then anyone knows
this guy is a team leader and he was on the mets
he doesnt stand for any rookie crap or not hustling
GOOD PICK UP!
And all his stats were worse than Murton's last year. I'll take my chances with the kid.
ChinMusic22
Dec 26th 2006, 5:52 am
Floyd's a good pickup. I hope to see him as a 4th outfielder/backup 1B. Murton needs to get the playing time, t hopefully it'll spark him in ST with another outfielder in the fold.
Murton had better numbers then Floyd last year, but Floyd was hurt. A healthy Floyd will hit .300 and have 25+ HR's. The problem is he can't stay healthy.
Left Field Tim
Dec 26th 2006, 7:47 am
Yeah, I don't mind the Floyd signing at all. But I wish he was playing RF every day and say adios to Jones! Soriano in center and Murton in LF.
DLee25
Dec 26th 2006, 8:12 am
Floyd's a good pickup. I hope to see him as a 4th outfielder/backup 1B. Murton needs to get the playing time, t hopefully it'll spark him in ST with another outfielder in the fold.
Murton had better numbers then Floyd last year, but Floyd was hurt. A healthy Floyd will hit .300 and have 25+ HR's. The problem is he can't stay healthy.
backup 1B? thats who daryle ward is.
ChinMusic22
Dec 26th 2006, 10:09 am
I forgot about Ward. Floyd is a good 4th OF then. He's nearing the end of his career. He'll get some time in the OF and you can't ask for a better pinch hitter.
roenick99
Dec 26th 2006, 10:15 am
So, has this actually even happened yet or is this all still just speculation?
Ivy Killa
Dec 26th 2006, 10:36 am
I just read the MLB rumors on foxsports.com and they claimed we were "close" to signing him.....well here is the source of that rumor
http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/heraldnews/sports/185812,4_2_JO26_ROBCOL_S1.article
Ivy Killa
Dec 27th 2006, 11:39 am
Another FLoyd update courtesy of http://www.mlb-rumors.blogspot.com/
The Cubs are reviewing Cliff Floyd's medical records one last time before finalizing a one year, incentive base contract. A deal is most likely to be finalized this weekend. Floyd batted .244 with 11 HR and 44 RBI. He will most likely platoon with Matt Murton in left field.
bczar
Dec 27th 2006, 11:52 am
Floyd will be good if he's healthy and Murton is still able to get some AB's against RHP. I don't want to only see Matt in the lineup every fifth game or so.
ChinMusic22
Dec 27th 2006, 3:55 pm
You'd have to believe Floyd knows he's not going to be an every day guy if he comes to the Cubs. He's better suited at this stage in his career to be a reserve player, and will be moreproductive with less wear and tear on him.
I really like Huff, but I can't see any way he'd come here to platoon. He just turned 30, and even though he's coming off a bad year he can still put up .280/25/90, as an every day guy.
bringbacktuffy
Dec 27th 2006, 11:26 pm
Is this the longest thread on this mb yet?
Ivy Killa
Dec 28th 2006, 1:49 am
Is this the longest thread on this mb yet?
d@mn i didnt realize this was 6 pages deep already.
roenick99
Dec 28th 2006, 7:13 am
It could be the longest thread. To be on topic though, does anyone notice that the information on Floyd is the same (with ever so slight variations) every single time someone posts it or you read it somewhere. They have been reviewing his medical records since the beginning of time now. ;-)
HOLYCOW!25
Dec 28th 2006, 8:45 am
Yea, this thread is even longer then the rusty trombone one. :p
Al Spanglers ghost
Dec 28th 2006, 9:37 am
You'd have to believe Floyd knows he's not going to be an every day guy if he comes to the Cubs. He's better suited at this stage in his career to be a reserve player, and will be moreproductive with less wear and tear on him.
I really like Huff, but I can't see any way he'd come here to platoon. He just turned 30, and even though he's coming off a bad year he can still put up .280/25/90, as an every day guy.
Huff is by far a better option,but I agree that he wants to play every day,and would want more money than Floyd.
Ivy Killa
Dec 28th 2006, 12:01 pm
It could be the longest thread. To be on topic though, does anyone notice that the information on Floyd is the same (with ever so slight variations) every single time someone posts it or you read it somewhere. They have been reviewing his medical records since the beginning of time now. ;-)
Kinda makes you wonder why Hendry dont back off and go after someone a little more healthy.
bringbacktuffy
Dec 28th 2006, 4:00 pm
Originally Posted by roenick99
It could be the longest thread. To be on topic though, does anyone notice that the information on Floyd is the same (with ever so slight variations) every single time someone posts it or you read it somewhere. They have been reviewing his medical records since the beginning of time now. ;-)
I think had to go to the beginning of time time to find his records! JK
Webgem
Dec 28th 2006, 4:17 pm
Kinda makes you wonder why Hendry dont back off and go after someone a little more healthy.
His base salary probably would be cheaper. I like this incentive laden contract. A player has to earn his money, I like it...:D ...I just hope he doesn't take away a lot of AB's from Murt.
Ivy Killa
Dec 28th 2006, 8:03 pm
^i totally agree.....but seriously how many times are they gonna have to go over his medical report. theres gotta be something in there they dont like.
Webgem
Dec 28th 2006, 8:10 pm
He probably has his own file cabinet full of medical reports...:D :D
Sheffield_&_Waveland
Dec 28th 2006, 8:16 pm
^i totally agree.....but seriously how many times are they gonna have to go over his medical report. theres gotta be something in there they dont like.
Yeah they probably don't like the Doctors writing probably the toughest thing with the reports...HAHA
Webgem
Jan 21st 2007, 7:26 am
http://www.suntimes.com/sports/deluca/221821,CST-SPT-cub21.article
How long have we heard this dance.....:D
HOLYCOW!25
Jan 21st 2007, 7:36 am
Like a biggilion times.
NeifiPerezMVP2007
Jan 21st 2007, 6:19 pm
Yea, this thread is even longer then the rusty trombone one. :p
ROFLMAO DONT REMIND ME!!!!!!:D :D :D
HOLYCOW!25
Jan 21st 2007, 6:33 pm
What a funny thread. Rusty trombone will always be remembered for as long as fogpog survives.
azrael
Jan 21st 2007, 6:36 pm
I just wanted to say how great this site is compared to the cubs mb. I find myself visiting it less and less and this one more and more. I also am thrilled about the bears win today! It's nice to communicate with cubs fans as I am in cardinal country.
HOLYCOW!25
Jan 21st 2007, 6:41 pm
Ouch, Cardinals country. That's no fun.
ryno4ever
Jan 21st 2007, 7:52 pm
I just wanted to say how great this site is compared to the cubs mb. I find myself visiting it less and less and this one more and more. I also am thrilled about the bears win today! It's nice to communicate with cubs fans as I am in cardinal country.
Welcome on Azrael! Soon, you won't even visit the "other" board unless you are looking for a good laugh!
ChinMusic22
Jan 21st 2007, 7:56 pm
Welcome on Azrael! Soon, you won't even visit the "other" board unless you are looking for a good laugh!
Is that site even funny anymore? Hahahaha...
jmorrison1
Jan 21st 2007, 9:08 pm
I just wanted to say how great this site is compared to the cubs mb. I find myself visiting it less and less and this one more and more. I also am thrilled about the bears win today! It's nice to communicate with cubs fans as I am in cardinal country.
Welcome! I'm in cardinal country, too. Ain't it awful! Well, as cities go, the St. Louis area is OK. But terrible baseball team! :-)
GO CUBS!!!
Al Spanglers ghost
Jan 22nd 2007, 9:03 am
Welcome!!
ARamfan
Jan 22nd 2007, 11:55 am
Welcome to fogpog!:cool:
NIUCubbie
Jan 24th 2007, 2:05 pm
So it is for sure that floyd is a Cub a 1 year deal worth 3 million
Ivy Killa
Jan 24th 2007, 2:08 pm
Yea i just heard that on espn news....now Hendry can turn his attention to Zambrano and hopefully Barrett as well....
Al Spanglers ghost
Jan 24th 2007, 2:24 pm
Cliff Floyd,Daryl Ward,Henry Blanco,Ryan Theriot,
with Pagan,Cedeno,Pie,etc battling for the final spot.
Pretty good looking bench,eh?
dundeecub
Jan 24th 2007, 2:38 pm
Yeah, the only question now is the 5th spot in the rotation, which isn't even a question if Prior is fit, which he looks on track to be. Although I guess Miller and Marquis might be competing for the 4th now that I think about it, with the loser being the longman/spot starter.
Just a thought, but the rotation at Iowa is going to be pretty fierce: Marshall, Guzman, Mateo, maybe O'Malley, with I think Marmol as the closer.
dundeecub
Jan 24th 2007, 2:41 pm
Cliff Floyd,Daryl Ward,Henry Blanco,Ryan Theriot,
with Pagan,Cedeno,Pie,etc battling for the final spot.
Pretty good looking bench,eh?
I don't think there is any way Pie will break ST with the Cubs unless he is going to be starting 90%+ of the games, the organization has been saying for ages that he needs at-bats, not being on the bench.
Al Spanglers ghost
Jan 24th 2007, 2:53 pm
I don't think there is any way Pie will break ST with the Cubs unless he is going to be starting 90%+ of the games, the organization has been saying for ages that he needs at-bats, not being on the bench.
You're right about that,if Pie makes the team it would be as a starter in centerfield only!!
Al Spanglers ghost
Jan 24th 2007, 3:03 pm
Yeah, the only question now is the 5th spot in the rotation, which isn't even a question if Prior is fit, which he looks on track to be. Although I guess Miller and Marquis might be competing for the 4th now that I think about it, with the loser being the longman/spot starter.
Just a thought, but the rotation at Iowa is going to be pretty fierce: Marshall, Guzman, Mateo, maybe O'Malley, with I think Marmol as the closer.
With the kind of money they are paying Marquis,I don't think there is any way
they use him in long relief. At least not out of spring training. If [heaven
forbid] he gets off to a horrible start in the regular season,he might get removed from the rotation by June.It would be a nice problem for Uncle Lou
if Prior and Miller are both healthy. You can never have to much pitching!!
roenick99
Jan 24th 2007, 3:07 pm
Yeah, the only question now is the 5th spot in the rotation, which isn't even a question if Prior is fit, which he looks on track to be. Although I guess Miller and Marquis might be competing for the 4th now that I think about it, with the loser being the longman/spot starter.
Just a thought, but the rotation at Iowa is going to be pretty fierce: Marshall, Guzman, Mateo, maybe O'Malley, with I think Marmol as the closer.
I can almost guarantee that Jason Marquis will NOT be a spot starter OR a longman. $7 million is little much to not be guaranteed a spot. You have 3 guarantees in the rotation short of an injury knocking them out and that is Zambrano, Lily, and Marquis. Beyond that, Hill will have to perform at his second half level or higher to be in the rotation. I don't see him having a bad spring and still getting a spot. Especially when you have Prior, Marshall, and Miller fighting for one spot...
Al Spanglers ghost
Jan 24th 2007, 3:14 pm
I can almost guarantee that Jason Marquis will NOT be a spot starter OR a longman. $7 million is little much to not be guaranteed a spot. You have 3 guarantees in the rotation short of an injury knocking them out and that is Zambrano, Lily, and Marquis. Beyond that, Hill will have to perform at his second half level or higher to be in the rotation. I don't see him having a bad spring and still getting a spot. Especially when you have Prior, Marshall, and Miller fighting for one spot...
I couldn't of said it better,roenick!
dundeecub
Jan 24th 2007, 3:16 pm
My bad there, i forgot quite how much Marquis was making. Unless he is much, much better in ST I cannot see Marshall beating out Hill for a starting job.
Z, Lilly, Marquis, 2 of Prior/Miller/Hill
Al Spanglers ghost
Jan 24th 2007, 3:35 pm
Yeah,let's hope we get the "second half" Rich Hill, not the evil "first half"
Rich Hill!!
dundeecub
Jan 24th 2007, 3:42 pm
I really, really hope he's got over his major league funk and i honestly think he might have, i think his struggles were psychological and now he knows he can beat ml batters he'll be ok. We need at least 4 of 5 on good form at all times and with marquis and prior on board that leaves little room for error.
Shwerve
Jan 24th 2007, 3:44 pm
he's good insurance. I still want Murton to get the ABs. $3mil is more than the $1mil that Erstad got (but that's a different conversation for a different thread). We have some depth with Floyd, Ward, Pagan, Theriot, Blanco on the bench. Crown our ***!
Bockstock
Jan 24th 2007, 3:45 pm
I can almost guarantee that Jason Marquis will NOT be a spot starter OR a longman. $7 million is little much to not be guaranteed a spot. You have 3 guarantees in the rotation short of an injury knocking them out and that is Zambrano, Lily, and Marquis. Beyond that, Hill will have to perform at his second half level or higher to be in the rotation. I don't see him having a bad spring and still getting a spot. Especially when you have Prior, Marshall, and Miller fighting for one spot...
Not to be anal, but I believe Marquis is only getting $4.5 million this year, $ 7.something next year, and $9.something million in 2009.
Maybe Hendry figured looking at his history he can count on him at least having one off year in the next three.
Shwerve
Jan 24th 2007, 3:48 pm
Carl Crawford
Webgem
Jan 24th 2007, 4:11 pm
Good signing. Insurance off the bench and a nice DH to have during inter-league play.
Al Spanglers ghost
Jan 24th 2007, 4:36 pm
Carl Crawford
CARL CRAWFORD
carl crawford:D
scuba
Jan 24th 2007, 5:52 pm
I don't mind Floyd as long as he is coming off the bench. He's a nice player when healthy, but I want Murton to play a full season and continue to grow.
ChinMusic22
Jan 24th 2007, 6:01 pm
Good signing. Insurance off the bench and a nice DH to have during inter-league play.
As well as the World Series...
I hink we hae an abundance of starting pitching and outfielders. Two things you can't have enough of. I really like the way the team has taken shape....
WrigleyFielder
Jan 24th 2007, 6:03 pm
Alright
LET'S SIGN ZAMBRANO NOW!
cubbie_kern
Jan 24th 2007, 9:47 pm
from what i've heard soriano is going to play center if we don't pick a true one up and i doubt we will.
Sheffield_&_Waveland
Jan 25th 2007, 5:16 am
I have to agree with Scuba that this isn't a bad signing as long as Murton gets his playing time. There is two things this off season that has absolutely amazed me and of course one is the money that has been spent and the other is the fact that Lou has been able to have things his way this entire off season. When Lou was hired he asked the big question if the Cubs were gonna give him the resources to bring a World Series to Chicago and I don't think anyone can argue the fact that they have done that. Lou expressed the needs of starting pitching and also having good people off the bench and once again Lou got what he wanted. As a lifelong Cubs fan I have never seen a manager have this much impact and say in what goes on in the off season with that being said, Cubs keep surprising me cause all thats left is World Series Champs at this point.
ryno4ever
Jan 25th 2007, 10:41 am
I have a feeling that for the money that Floyd is going to be making, he won't be off the bench. One year $3 million contract with incentives up to $7.5 million in 2007 is a little high to be paying someone to sit on the bench. Floyd has a mutual option for 2008 that can be worth up to another $10 million with incentives. So, this leads me to think that either Jones will be gone before the season starts, or Murton goes to the bench, however, will get a little more playing time than most bench players due to Floyd's need to stay healthy.
HEYHEY
Jan 25th 2007, 11:04 am
Looks like Hendry is just piling up players and options at this point.He is ripping a page out of Jerry Angelos book.Build depth.To many of you have short memories.The past few years have been injury plagued and Hendry is doing a great job at building depth on the Cubs.Better late than never.
roenick99
Jan 25th 2007, 11:12 am
I have a feeling that for the money that Floyd is going to be making, he won't be off the bench. One year $3 million contract with incentives up to $7.5 million in 2007 is a little high to be paying someone to sit on the bench. Floyd has a mutual option for 2008 that can be worth up to another $10 million with incentives. So, this leads me to think that either Jones will be gone before the season starts, or Murton goes to the bench, however, will get a little more playing time than most bench players due to Floyd's need to stay healthy.
I am at the point right now that if Jim Hendry chose to release Matt Murton because it would guarantee us a WS victory, then I would volunteer to give the guy the bad news. I don't care who plays where as long as we win the freaking WS!!! :eek:
bringbacktuffy
Jan 27th 2007, 12:20 pm
Murton will get his ABs but mostly against lefty pitchers, and Floyd wont spend the entire season on the bench. Hopefully LF will be strong at the plate no matter who is pitching. I like the platoon situation b/c it will give us the best chance to win. Murton struggles against righties but eats up leftys. Lou will give him the bulk of the playing time, and Floyd could also spell JJ from time to time. Ill admit i was iffy about the signing but im liking it more and more everyday. 3 million isnt too much for a guy like Floyd and if he earns those incentives, then that means the cubs are winning ball games.
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