Blue Jays are looking to trade OF. Alex Rios!

[cubbyfanforever]

Blue Jays are looking to trade Alex Rios OF. ,guys this guy batted .302 17 Hr. 82 RBI in 128 games,Blue Jays are looking for pitching and we have Marmol,Guzman,Miller or Marshall.

[NeifiPerezMVP2007]

Blue Jays are looking to trade Alex Rios OF. ,guys this guy batted .302 17 Hr. 82 RBI in 128 games,Blue Jays are looking for pitching and we have Marmol,Guzman,Miller or Marshall.

I would make that trade in a heart beat!!! He has lots of ability and is young. But he is a righty and the Cubs need a lefty

[cubbyfanforever]

I agree ,we need a lefty,and if we project Murton /Floyd LF Soriano RF. we can trade JJ for another SP. and use Rios/Pie in CF.just in case PIE needs more time,we would have Rios to fall back on. I'm not too crazy with Miller at starting pitcher,I don't know if Prior is or will be ready with the elbow.

[Webgem]

JH should explore this possibility....Rios is a solid player.

[ryno23hof]

I would make that trade and put Rios in CF. Trade Pie if someone is interested. Rios is locked in as he is not a free agent for 4 more years. So far , Pie hasn't proven anything to anyone , except he gets hurt a lot. Rios is already a proven stud. Trade Pie and let someone else take a chance. All we have been hearing for 4 years is Pie is ready next year , and he gets hurt again. Get all we can for him and still have a proven horse in CF. We won't have room for all these good young pitchers we have , so package 1or2or3 of them and swing the deal. We certainly have better young arms than the Mets to offer , unlike some reports saying the Mets have the best package to offer.

[NeifiPerezMVP2007]

I agree ,we need a lefty,and if we project Murton /Floyd LF Soriano RF. we can trade JJ for another SP. and use Rios/Pie in CF.just in case PIE needs more time,we would have Rios to fall back on. I'm not too crazy with Miller at starting pitcher,I don't know if Prior is or will be ready with the elbow.

I'm happy to say you hit the nail on the head!!!:D

[weeghman]

I would absolutely make this trade. This guy is unbelievably talented and is young. If he hadn't got the staph infection midway last year he would have had Miguel Cabrera like numbers with more speed. I would trade Pie for him can you imagine a top of the lineup with Soriano, Rios, Ramirez, and DLee. Crazy!! Here's hopin'.

[cubbyfanforever]

Right,I agree,hope JH is watching this thread,this Alex Rios is projected to be better that Vernon Wells.

[WrigleyFielder]

Rios seems like he would be a good pickup. I'd be willing to give up a prospect.

[weeghman]

He would be more than a good pick up. this guy is gonna be 26 years old, has speed power, and can field. He has been compared to Dave Winfield since he was in high school. We would improve drastically with this trade.

[NeifiPerezMVP2007]

He would be more than a good pick up. this guy is gonna be 26 years old, has speed power, and can field. He has been compared to Dave Winfield since he was in high school. We would improve drastically with this trade.

Yeah thats all true. See, I like to say we need more leftys but, if there really good right handers thats fine. I'd rather have Vernon Wells than J.Jones!!:p

[bringbacktuffy]

hmm, its much more enticing than the aforementioned taveras trade. I don think JH will pull the trigger on trading Pie, Marshall or Marmol away. I honestly think he's building the team for a championship run in 08. Prepping the young guys this year and trade marquis/lilly/miller for the talent we need to bring it all home. I dunno, i like the prospect but im not sure it will happen.

[Al Spanglers ghost]

I would make that trade in a heart beat!!! He has lots of ability and is young. But he is a righty and the Cubs need a lefty

Rios would be nice,as would Aaron Rowand,Willie Taveras,Vernon Wells,or some of the other right handed hitting cf that have been talked about,BUT WE NEED A LEFT HANDED BAT,even if Jones remains a Cub.

[cubbyfanforever]

I like JJ but Jim Hendry is high on Murton/and when we get Floyd at left,They already said ,Soriano at corner,which will mean Right,and JH is not high on JJ ,after the espn news conference,that would mean JJ is going to be traded.

[NeifiPerezMVP2007]

Why do we need a catcher during a game? we could move the catcher to the outfield!!! 4 outfielders!!!!!! (if you didnt know I was joking you shouldnt be allowed to use a computer):p

[Ivy Killa]

Rios would be nice, BUT WE NEED A LEFT HANDED BAT

Agreed.....are there any lefthanded hitting outfielders available that play solid defense, has an offensive upside, that can run and has a solid throwing arm?..............oh yea and he cant be named Corey Patterson (i wonder if a reunion will ever be possible)

[Shwerve]

I'm not against Rios by any stretch. I do think its funny that it was all about a trade for Wells last week and now Rios name is popping up. Maybe it is all about who we perceive to be available- I get that. Bottom line though is that the Jays are looking for someone to plug their rotation behind Halladay/Chacin/Burnett. Marmol or Marshall aren't going to suffice for them. Lets be honest, they are being linked to the Dodgers for Brad Penny, why would they want our rookies?

[Shwerve]

Get me Carl Crawford and we've got a deal.

[Brutus T Manstrength]

no kidding.. Crawford would be about a hundred times better than rios. I think he's got a lot more upside than Rios.

[Shwerve]

I think I start the Crawford campaign everytime I log on.

[Al Spanglers ghost]

The Cubs are building a team that is not rebuilding,but trying to win now.
The D-Rays need bullpen help and are thin at shortstop.JH should offer Ohman,Cedeno,Guzman or Marshall, JJ OR even Pie,if thats what it would take to get Carl Crawford.
He is exactly what the Cubs are looking for,and if there is even the slightest chance that he could be had Hendry needs to go for it.
This team He is putting together must win quickly,that means using your minor leaguers in trades to get what will help you win now!!!

[Sheffield_&_Waveland]

I just don't see this happening because there has been much talk about Pie. JH did say that they were not pursuing anyone for a long contract for the CF spot which leads me to believe that is gonna be a position that is not gonna be decided on until a much later date. I honestly believe they are going to give Pie the chance in Spring Training and if that doesn't work out they will then resort to plan B which is to then give JJ his chance in center. I think that plan C would be to trade for that position if need be. I don't see the Cubs giving up any pitching no matter who it is because of the pitching problems we had last year they are going to go with an over load because they don't want to be caught in the same situation as they were lat year.

[chicubs]

Blue Jays are looking to trade Alex Rios OF. ,guys this guy batted .302 17 Hr. 82 RBI in 128 games,Blue Jays are looking for pitching and we have Marmol,Guzman,Miller or Marshall.
Unfortunately, the cubs already have enough outfielders (derosa,murton,soriano,pie and maybe floyd.

[Al Spanglers ghost]

I just don't see this happening because there has been much talk about Pie. JH did say that they were not pursuing anyone for a long contract for the CF spot which leads me to believe that is gonna be a position that is not gonna be decided on until a much later date. I honestly believe they are going to give Pie the chance in Spring Training and if that doesn't work out they will then resort to plan B which is to then give JJ his chance in center. I think that plan C would be to trade for that position if need be. I don't see the Cubs giving up any pitching no matter who it is because of the pitching problems we had last year they are going to go with an over load because they don't want to be caught in the same situation as they were lat year.

There was much talk about Wood and Prior,the last few years,Bobby Hill was gonna be a star second baseman,for years I've waited on the Gary Scotts and Kevin Ories,Ty Griffins,Mike Harkeys,Lance Dicksons.
I've been a Cubs fan for almost forty years now,and some of the best things that have happened with high profile prospects have been to trade them,when you have a team that has a chance to win now.
[1984 Joe Carter for Rick Sutcliff,I know Carter had a great career,but I would make this trade again in a heartbeat.Mel Hall also went to Cleveland,with George Frasier and Ron Hassey coming to the Cubs along with Sutcliff.]
[Hee Seop Choi was gonna be a big star we heard for years,trading him for D-Lee is looking pretty good these days.]
I Think Hendry and the Cubs need to do everything possible to not have any huge question marks going into the 2007 season,right now we still have an unsettled situation in the outfield.
I still think JJ has made it clear that he does not want to be a Cub,and if he is not traded could be a cancer this season.

[cubbyfanforever]

Unfortunately, the cubs already have enough outfielders (derosa,murton,soriano,pie and maybe floyd.

Outfielders yes,but not a true CF.those guys with the exception of Soriano (I think he can play CF.)and Pie right now is hitting .216 in the Dominican ,those other guys mentioned can not cut it at CF.

[cubbyfanforever]

I think I start the Crawford campaign everytime I log on.
I like Crawford too,Sweet Lou knows him really well.

[NeifiPerezMVP2007]

I say we ask Bruce Willis to play center. You all know he will lay down the law (and fight meteors). Hes a 2 tool player.

[Sheffield_&_Waveland]

There was much talk about Wood and Prior,the last few years,Bobby Hill was gonna be a star second baseman,for years I've waited on the Gary Scotts and Kevin Ories,Ty Griffins,Mike Harkeys,Lance Dicksons.
I've been a Cubs fan for almost forty years now,and some of the best things that have happened with high profile prospects have been to trade them,when you have a team that has a chance to win now.
[1984 Joe Carter for Rick Sutcliff,I know Carter had a great career,but I would make this trade again in a heartbeat.Mel Hall also went to Cleveland,with George Frasier and Ron Hassey coming to the Cubs along with Sutcliff.]
[Hee Seop Choi was gonna be a big star we heard for years,trading him for D-Lee is looking pretty good these days.]
I Think Hendry and the Cubs need to do everything possible to not have any huge question marks going into the 2007 season,right now we still have an unsettled situation in the outfield.
I still think JJ has made it clear that he does not want to be a Cub,and if he is not traded could be a cancer this season.

That was all speculation about JJ wanting to be traded. I have yet to see a quotation of him stating that he wanted traded. You say that the Cubs do not need to go into the season with a question mark I could not agree with you more and thats why I continue to think that the Cubs are not gonna trade any pitching at this point with what they experienced with 15 different starters last year. The Cubs at this point do have a question mark as far as the centerfield spot but they obviously are not bothered by it with the talk of Pie coming in for Spring Training and if that doesn't work out you better believe they have a plan B. I just feel the only way the Cubs are going to get rid of any pitching at this point is if during the season they feel that they are suffering at the centerfield spot. I have said before that I don't like the idea of JJ playing centerfield but at the sametime it is nice to have his bat in the line-up. Should be interesting to see how it all plays out.

[HOLYCOW!25]

I say we ask Bruce Willis to play center. You all know he will lay down the law (and fight meteors). Hes a 2 tool player.

No, he might start digging in center field. And if we tell him to stop, he'll probably tell us, "I've never missed a depth I've aimed for!"

[Ivy Killa]

I've said it once and i'll say it again....We'll be just fine with Angel Pagan in center, i truely believe this guy could be a quality everyday contributor as long as he's given some playing time.....Personally i'd put him in center for the whole season, but a platoon of Pagan+Jones is more than likely what will happen and i guess that's not too bad either....after all Jones does have a decent lefthanded bat.

[Webgem]

I think I start the Crawford campaign everytime I log on.

That's because that kid has raw skills...and he's still learning the game

Not too many players can steal home..;)

[ghardy51]

There was much talk about Wood and Prior,the last few years,Bobby Hill was gonna be a star second baseman,for years I've waited on the Gary Scotts and Kevin Ories,Ty Griffins,Mike Harkeys,Lance Dicksons.
I've been a Cubs fan for almost forty years now,and some of the best things that have happened with high profile prospects have been to trade them,when you have a team that has a chance to win now.
[1984 Joe Carter for Rick Sutcliff,I know Carter had a great career,but I would make this trade again in a heartbeat.Mel Hall also went to Cleveland,with George Frasier and Ron Hassey coming to the Cubs along with Sutcliff.]
[Hee Seop Choi was gonna be a big star we heard for years,trading him for D-Lee is looking pretty good these days.]
I Think Hendry and the Cubs need to do everything possible to not have any huge question marks going into the 2007 season,right now we still have an unsettled situation in the outfield.
I still think JJ has made it clear that he does not want to be a Cub,and if he is not traded could be a cancer this season.

Thats the smartest thing I have heard in a long time.

[Shwerve]

Sadly, we're not likely to go after Crawford. That, however, however is not going to stop me from campaining for him. We have depth and we have youth. At this time,we have probably 7 starters. Devil Rays want 1 or 2 quality starters to back up Kazmir. I don't think we can convince them Marshall is a #2. Sorry. JH has committed to Pie for the future. However, If he was involved in a trade for Crawford, we don't need to worry about Pie's future. We will concern ourselves w/ Crawford's future- which will be bright.
Crown their ***!

[Shwerve]

I saw Brant Brown while he was with the Schaumburg Flyers. That was special.

[NeifiPerezMVP2007]

No, he might start digging in center field. And if we tell him to stop, he'll probably tell us, "I've never missed a depth I've aimed for!"

LOL Yeah! Or he will join forces with Sam Jackson and when on a NY road trip, they will get involved in a manhunt for a German madman!!:p

[Al Spanglers ghost]

That was all speculation about JJ wanting to be traded. I have yet to see a quotation of him stating that he wanted traded. You say that the Cubs do not need to go into the season with a question mark I could not agree with you more and thats why I continue to think that the Cubs are not gonna trade any pitching at this point with what they experienced with 15 different starters last year. The Cubs at this point do have a question mark as far as the centerfield spot but they obviously are not bothered by it with the talk of Pie coming in for Spring Training and if that doesn't work out you better believe they have a plan B. I just feel the only way the Cubs are going to get rid of any pitching at this point is if during the season they feel that they are suffering at the centerfield spot. I have said before that I don't like the idea of JJ playing centerfield but at the sametime it is nice to have his bat in the line-up. Should be interesting to see how it all plays out.

Check out Paul Sullivans story in the Tribune 12/5/06
titled:Jacque Jones exit stage right.
The story is about an ESPN interview that JJ did the beggining of December.
I happened to see that interview,and JJ made it very clear that he would rather be somewhere else.I wish he was a happy camper,because other than
his throwing problems and his slow start,he had a decent season last year.
But he has "rabbit ears"and if he gets off to a slow start again and gets booed
he could be a problem for Uncle Lou.

[Sheffield_&_Waveland]

Check out Paul Sullivans story in the Tribune 12/5/06
titled:Jacque Jones exit stage right.
The story is about an ESPN interview that JJ did the beggining of December.
I happened to see that interview,and JJ made it very clear that he would rather be somewhere else.I wish he was a happy camper,because other than
his throwing problems and his slow start,he had a decent season last year.
But he has "rabbit ears"and if he gets off to a slow start again and gets booed
he could be a problem for Uncle Lou.

I stand corrected off that interview and misinterpreted what you were saying as far as JJ. But there has been long talks of the Cubs trying to intrest other teams in him which all came prior to the pitching staff being complete. I believe that these talks have quieted to this point becuase they were working trades for pitching and at this point there is no longer any need for pitching. If the Cubs are going to want to upgrade from JJ they are going to have to give up some of the pitching and I just think that JH has expressed that he was comfortable with the pitching and thats not an area that he will be willing to trade. JJ has 2 years left on his contract and he is a left handed bat which is important for our line up right now, the talks of him leaving Chicago has quieted and I would like it to stay that way if it means that he can put up offensive numbers similuar to what he did last year. If Pie could play Center and JJ could bat for him it would be a perfect world for the Cubs but we play real baseball in the NL and don't have the DH so it should be interesting to see what happens.

[Al Spanglers ghost]

I stand corrected off that interview and misinterpreted what you were saying as far as JJ. But there has been long talks of the Cubs trying to intrest other teams in him which all came prior to the pitching staff being complete. I believe that these talks have quieted to this point becuase they were working trades for pitching and at this point there is no longer any need for pitching. If the Cubs are going to want to upgrade from JJ they are going to have to give up some of the pitching and I just think that JH has expressed that he was comfortable with the pitching and thats not an area that he will be willing to trade. JJ has 2 years left on his contract and he is a left handed bat which is important for our line up right now, the talks of him leaving Chicago has quieted and I would like it to stay that way if it means that he can put up offensive numbers similuar to what he did last year. If Pie could play Center and JJ could bat for him it would be a perfect world for the Cubs but we play real baseball in the NL and don't have the DH so it should be interesting to see what happens.

I agree,but I would hate to see Pie at such a young age,put in such a pressure situation,on a team with very high expectations,and end up the next Corey Patterson.[booed,run out of town]
I still think Hendry will try to move JJ,not because he wants to ,but because he has to.He will only do that if he can find a veteran left handed hitting CF.

[mickeyrom51]

Not gonna happen...Hendry is done.

[NeifiPerezMVP2007]

Really guys whats with all the lectures???:confused:

[bringbacktuffy]

Im not convinced Hendry is done. Im envisioning a move with the oufielders and possibly one of young arms moving at one point. I would rather that happen than Pie our starting CF on opening day. But then again I also think JH really wants Pie in CF for the whole year. I dunno. Im confusing myself.