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TheBenjamin
Dec 4th 2009, 4:06 am
http://minors.mlblogs.com/archives/2009/12/as-cubs_trade_prospects.html


Yes, there were a few big leaguers who changed teams in Thursday's big A's-Cubs deal -- Jeff Gray goes from Oakland to Chicago, Jake Fox and Aaron Miles head to the Bay area in return. But what about those Minor Leaguers, Ronny Morla and Matt Spencer?

You can find the basic information, stats, when/where they signed, other transactions (in Spencer's case, a trade) in this story (http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20091203&content_id=7752932&vkey=news_chc&fext=.jsp&c_id=chc). But here's some more detailed information on what the right-handed pitcher and outfielder/first baseman bring to the table.

Ronny Morla

Morla is a solid mid-range kind of prospect. His numbers in the Northwest League don't lookhttp://minors.mlblogs.com/assets_c/2009/12/morla-thumb-180x254-1691901.jpg (http://minors.mlblogs.com/morla.jpg) all that exciting, but what probably interested the Cubs is that he was throwing 93-94 mph with his fastball and maintaining it in his starts. He complements the fastball with a good slider. It's the breaking ball that largely was the swing-and-miss pitch that allowed him to rack up over a strikeout per inning with Vancouver. At 21 years old, he's got a good pitcher's body and is projectable. If a team put him in the bullpen exclusively, he could increase the fastball into the mid-90s.

Matt Spencer

http://minors.mlblogs.com/assets_c/2009/12/spencer-thumb-150x224-1691931.jpg (http://minors.mlblogs.com/spencer.jpg)Spencer is big and athletic, capable of playing the outfield as well as first base. He's got an above-average arm. In fact, there was some talk about drafting him as a pitcher because he was 90+ in brief mound stints at Arizona State. He's got plus raw power and became a much better overall hitter in 2009 by shortening his swing after getting promoted to Double-A. He can hit the ball out of any park and the OF-1B mix gives him a little versatility defensively. He drew a comparison to current Cub Micah Hoffpauir at similar stages of their careers.

SkullKey
Dec 4th 2009, 4:19 am
" ... It gives us three good young players and a power arm with a chance to make the club in Gray." ... "

A chance to make the club.

LOOK OUT CARDINALS HERE WE COME !

LeeEila's/rant
Dec 4th 2009, 7:57 am
LOOK OUT CARDINALS HERE WE COME !

If it is true on what the Cards are looking at Jermain Dye to be thier big aquisition this year things don't look that bad.

Bockstock
Dec 4th 2009, 12:30 pm
If it is true on what the Cards are looking at Jermain Dye to be thier big aquisition this year things don't look that bad.

That would be the worst defensive OF in the league since Fukudome would have to stay in CF.

Bockstock
Dec 4th 2009, 1:32 pm
" ... It gives us three good young players and a power arm with a chance to make the club in Gray." ... "

A chance to make the club.

LOOK OUT CARDINALS HERE WE COME !

Cheap bullpen arms >>>>> paying for Eyre, Grabow, Hawkins, Gregg..

Hendry's been pretty spot-on with no-name pitchers hes picked up in trades; Jose Ceda, Kevin Hart, Jose Ascanio (somewhat highly regarded), Gaub, Chris Archer, Justin Berg. The other guy (Moria) sounds like he's cut from the same cloth.

Having alot of guys with options allows you to shuttle the hot hand in between Chicago and Iowa pretty easily if there are bullpen problems or an injury.

TheBenjamin
Dec 4th 2009, 5:53 pm
That would be the worst defensive OF in the league since Fukudome would have to stay in CF.

No, the cardinals want to sign dye, not the cubs. They can have him, he can't play defense anymore

taz57
Dec 5th 2009, 2:35 am
So far, it seems like Hendry is trying to undo all the mistakes he made last off-season. How does that help the 2010 Cubs?

Bockstock
Dec 5th 2009, 1:50 pm
No, the cardinals want to sign dye, not the cubs. They can have him, he can't play defense anymore

ah yes my reading sucks. Too much reading for articles for school.

SkullKey
Dec 5th 2009, 3:37 pm
So far, it seems like Hendry is trying to undo all the mistakes he made last off-season. How does that help the 2010 Cubs?


That seems to be exactly what he is doing, doesn't it! He doesn't seem to have a direction or plan, for whatever reason. There is no forward movement. No apparent desire for improvement which seems essential to me. The Ivory Tower seems to believe the Cubs are World Championship caliber as is; I see this as stunningly naive or -God forbid - dishonest. We aren't clear-cut favorites in our division even - not by a long shot - much less really capable of becoming NL Champs - much less able to challenge the AL juggernauts. Isn't winning - not just getting there - the World Series the goal? Or is it really deja' vu all over again? I feel like breaking out in song:

"...Meet the new boss - Same as the old boss..."
(I won't get fooled again!)

SkullKey
Dec 5th 2009, 3:52 pm
It's been said that the Cubs were badly hurt by injuries in 2009 - we need to get, and stay, healthy. That's been an off-season chant. Did you know? - according to Baseball Prospectus the Cubs lost 619 "Player-Days" to injury. The Cardinals lost 1,520 !!! That's 2.5 times the number of days as the Cubs! If they get and stay healthy we don't have a chance of staying within 10 games much less 7.5 like 2009.

We can't stand pat - we need to get better !!!
I want to win not - piss around with this!