View Full Version : Cashner to be called up to the pen
Bockstock
May 31st 2010, 7:22 am
If Ricketts allows this, it's hard not to lump him in with Lou, Hendry, and the other morons running this team.
LeeEila's/rant
Jun 1st 2010, 7:11 am
Can he hit ? and play 3rd ?
SkullKey
Jun 1st 2010, 12:07 pm
He probably hits better than Ramirez. I don't know about the glove. Honestly they could probably bring up Vitters and get better production right now.
HEYHEY
Jun 2nd 2010, 10:14 am
This is all good. Let the youth movement begin, bring on Vitters
ryno4ever
Jun 2nd 2010, 10:34 am
Vitters has a thumb injury, I do believe....
SkullKey
Jun 2nd 2010, 11:18 am
Vitters might still be the better of two poor choices. Ramirez has a serious (and possibly incurable) bat injury.
(I am not seriously suggesting bringing up Vitters at this point. But Hendry has had years to fix the 3B bench problem and Baker seems to be his best answer.)
LeeEila's/rant
Jun 2nd 2010, 11:25 am
I say put Fontenot out there and eat the defense for the bat and a lefty in the line up every day.
Bockstock
Jun 2nd 2010, 11:41 am
This is all good. Let the youth movement begin, bring on Vitters
There's a huge jump between Castro and Vitters in their offensive and defensive skills, I hope you realize that. Vitters has not even shown he can consistently hit AA pitching yet.
Cashner should continued to be stretched out as a SP. They are Samardzijing him, as most thought they would.
Cashner as a SP who can throw 160+ Innings next year is WAY more valuable than as a RP who is going to throw 40+ irrelevant innings on this crappy team. Putting him in the bullpen is derailling extending his arm strength. It's not about getting MLB experience. The sooner gets to the 150+ innings a season point, the sooner he can take a spot in the rotation.
The Youth Movement we are seeing this year is more of a ploy for Hendry/Bush et al to keep their jobs than it is a smart long-term rebuilding plan.
I'm all for a rebuilding, but in a smart baseball economics style that will save the team money down the road when some of the bigger contracts are up.
The only reason they are calling up rookies is to please the fans and try to save their jobs.
LeeEila's/rant
Jun 2nd 2010, 12:34 pm
The only reason they are calling up rookies is to please the fans and try to save their jobs.
here here right on
ryno4ever
Jun 2nd 2010, 3:10 pm
Chad Tracy is tearing up Iowa... he's batting .414.... put Rammy on the DL for whatever ailment they want to make up-send him SOMEWHERE to work out his issues.
HEYHEY
Jun 2nd 2010, 4:02 pm
There's a huge jump between Castro and Vitters in their offensive and defensive skills, I hope you realize that. Vitters has not even shown he can consistently hit AA pitching yet.
Cashner should continued to be stretched out as a SP. They are Samardzijing him, as most thought they would.
Cashner as a SP who can throw 160+ Innings next year is WAY more valuable than as a RP who is going to throw 40+ irrelevant innings on this crappy team. Putting him in the bullpen is derailling extending his arm strength. It's not about getting MLB experience. The sooner gets to the 150+ innings a season point, the sooner he can take a spot in the rotation.
The Youth Movement we are seeing this year is more of a ploy for Hendry/Bush et al to keep their jobs than it is a smart long-term rebuilding plan.
I'm all for a rebuilding, but in a smart baseball economics style that will save the team money down the road when some of the bigger contracts are up.
The only reason they are calling up rookies is to please the fans and try to save their jobs.
I don't care, you can't keep marching out the same guys and expect different results. If you bring a guy up and he can't produce then you bring in someone else.
You have a problem complicating baseball when it's not that complicated.
Bockstock
Jun 2nd 2010, 4:30 pm
You have a problem complicating baseball when it's not that complicated.
Actually, that whole train of thought (It's not that complicated) is why the Hendry Regime has failed.
Relying on old school scouting over Advanced statistics, giving out millions of dollars to role players because they are veterans or have been on playoff teams, ignoring baseball economics.
Long-term success takes long-term and skillful planning and patience. Why do you think teams like the Mets and the Cubs can't consistently string together a streak of successful seasons?? They waste resources because they do now know how to properly utilized them.
I'd rather see Cashner in the starting rotation NEXT YEAR, as opposed to wasting his innings for a team not going to do much this year.
vBulletin® v3.6.8, Copyright ©2000-2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.