Ramirez Gone!!

[scuba]

According to foxsports.com, Aramis is testing the free agent market. Wow. Unbelievable. Great way to start the offseason. :mad:

[Waveland007]

Fat *** Hendry does another outstanding job, you know I use to stand up for him because he got rid of Todd Hundley's contract, delt Hernandez, Hill, and Brubeck for Aram, and delt Choi for Lee, but since then he hasn't done crap. He gave Neifi 5 million, gave Rusch 2 years, gave Alfonseca another year, had no contignency plan for Prior and Wood when all knew the probability of them getting hurt, let Beltran play him for a fool so the Mets would pay more, let Furcal play him like a fittle, had a 100 million dollar payroll finish with the worst record in the NL, and last, but not least not getting the job done on Aram. I can't wait till we fire this fat sack of ****.

[scuba]

Couldn't have said it better myself, wave.

[Webgem]

I'm not saying it isn't true but nothing in that article mentions Kinzer or Aramis declining any offers.

We'll find out in 1 1/2 hours....:( :(

[scuba]

I wish it wasn't true, gem, but I'm afraid it is. Not sure how you let Aramis get away.:confused:

[Webgem]

More Beer...:D

[scuba]

I'll grab the Jack...:D

[Waveland007]

we may have to get by each game this year like Bob Uecker did in the Major Leagues movies lol

[Webgem]

we may have to get by each game this year like Bob Uecker did in the Major Leagues movies lol

LMAO...we need his white tank top too..:D

[Waveland007]

Pedro Cerrano for 3b!!!!!!

[scuba]

LOL...And Willie Mays Hayes to play center! :p

[redcheeks]

I can't believe this!! And watch, we probably won't end up getting anybody good this offseason.

[Waveland007]

Rick Vaughn would be a good #2, but I have a feeling he would only sign a 4 year deal with an out clause after 2 years.

[Webgem]

LOL....Willie Mays Hayes for leadoff..;)

[Waveland007]

Here is the real question, which owner is worse the Tribune or the female in the movies lmao

[scuba]

I can't believe this!! And watch, we probably won't end up getting anybody good this offseason.

It's okay, red. Have another beer. Or you can have some of my Jack! :p

[redcheeks]

Thanks for the offer, scuba. It just ticks me off. Can we ever do anything right?

[LeeEila's/rant]

Actually it was Andy that messed this one up. He was the one that gave Ram the first contract.

[Webgem]

I have Aramis jersey for sale....:( :(

[Webgem]

I'm listening to 670 right now (because it's the only worth listening too right now) and they said no knews on Aramis.....12:06 a.m. Hmmmm

[scuba]

Rosenthal has been wrong before. I hope he is this time too.

[Waveland007]

Hendry needs to get the lube and bendover already lmao Give Aramis whatever he wants

[Webgem]

I just find it funny that Rosenthals the only one reporting this and not even one Chicago media outlet knows anything.

[scuba]

I can't believe it's taken this long one way or the other. And now we're past the deadline and still don't know anything! :cool:

[Webgem]

I'm sure the Chicago media will have something in the morning.

[scuba]

I know, gem. I'm just all worked up now! :p

[Webgem]

yep me too Scuba:)

[billbucknersjersey22]

We really don't need to put 16-18 million $ into the Ramirez basket for the next 5-7 years. He doesn't show up to play all the time (either mentally or physically). He does not run everything out, he has the tender hammy and is not a clubhouse leader by his own admission. Just think what he'll be like once he knows he has the big contract and all the years guaranteed. I like ARam but not at the price he thinks he should get. Not many other 3b options but we can use the money to shore up 2-3 other holes first. 2007 won't matter too much anyway, we need too many people. Plus, remember, big Z is gonna want more money soon. Him, I would pay. Just thoughts!

[Webgem]

A new day...a new offseason starts today.....Get some players Jimbo.:rolleyes:

[scuba]

Although I see your points, I would still like to have him. If for no other reasons than he is one of the best 3B in the league, there are no other good options at 3B to replace him with, and it took us forever to find a guy to replace Santo. He might not be a natural leader, but he puts up the numbers and gets the job done and his teammates don't ever complain about him. I just think personally it's crazy that Hendry let one of the best moves he ever made to get him in the first place just go by the waistside for probably a couple million dollars. I guess now we don't have any excuses for not getting some other good players though, right? :rolleyes:

[Webgem]

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/

Not a reliable source but interesting to say the least...:cool:

[Waveland007]

Paul Kinzer must really have a hard on for screwing the cubs over. That would be twice he put a number on the table and we matched it and then he backed out wanting more. I'm starting to hate him more then Boras

[Webgem]

Paul Kinzer must really have a hard on for screwing the cubs over. That would be twice he put a number on the table and we matched it and then he backed out wanting more. I'm starting to hate him more then Boras

I couldn't agree more....nice hometown discount...I would bet Hendry could counter offer 6 @ 95 and he still turn it down.

[Waveland007]

I'm all for an agent doing his job to the best of his ability and getting his client the best deal possible, BUT when you set a firm offer and tell the other party we will accept this offer if given and the other party does it's dishonest and unethical. He did that with Furcal last year and backed up, you don't set up stipulations or perameters for a contract and back out. Atleast with Scott Boras he tells you flat out how it's going to be and is good enough to get it and not play games.

[Webgem]

I agree...I'm beginning to dislike the way Kinzer does business. I thought Boras was bad...:mad:

[Czech Swing]

Aram just agreed to re-sign with the Cubs! 5 years 70 million! Fox news just reported it.

[scuba]

I just saw this too, czech! Way to go Jimbo!! :D

[Webgem]

Hes sgined he signed.....Ramirez signed

[Waveland007]

i'm going nuts right now YEAH BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! break out the jack daniels/beer bong lmao

[billbucknersjersey22]

Wow! I guess ARam is a team guy after all. I thought for sure he wanted 6-7 years at 17 million per. 5/70 or about 14 million per year fits nicely. Kind of surprised that he signed for that. Good start! Let's get a couple of starters, another reliever, a 2b guy (maybe Theriot can handle it?) and a CF'er. Hey, we're good to go.

[billbucknersjersey22]

Wow! I guess ARam is a team guy after all. I thought for sure he wanted 6-7 years at 17 million per. 5/70 or about 14 million per year fits nicely. Kind of surprised that he signed for that. Good start! Let's get a couple of starters, another reliever, a 2b guy (maybe Theriot can handle it?) and a CF'er. Hey, we're good to go.

[Drew]

Well now that there won't be a huge hole at 3B, who do we go after for CF?

[scuba]

Hey Drew! Why grumpy? ARam is back! Anyway, I think Drew would be good for CF if we don't overpay for him. Other than that, I'm not too sure since you know Pierre isn't coming back.

[Drew]

I was only grumpy after I spent the morning reading about ARam and "Beltran money." I'll be a lot better if the Bears manage to win tonight. Can Drew play CF every day though? Didn't the Dodgers have a rotation out there last year?

[scuba]

I'm with ya, drew. Hope the Bears win tonight. Drew can play CF from what I've heard, but I don't know if LA had a rotation with him. I would imagine he would need some days off every now and then.

[scuba]

Hey gem, looks like you can keep that Ramirez jersey now! I still think we should go after Willie Mays Hayes for center too! :p

[Webgem]

Hey gem, looks like you can keep that Ramirez jersey now! I still think we should go after Willie Mays Hayes for center too! :p

I know...I can wear it with pride..;)