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Old Nov 15th 2008, 6:30 pm
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Thoughts on the Cubs and the Big Unit

I honestly don't think that Randy Johnson would be all that bad. He would only be an option really if the Cubs fail to resign Dempster, fail to trade for Peavy, fail in every other starting pitcher race. Or even if they do get one or two of their other pitching hopes, he would be this years Jon Lieber. Competes for a spot, wins it or heads to the bullpen. He still has a good fastball, but he has lost a step. He would only cost around 7M for one year. as well. But he still put up good numbers last year. Check it out. Here is part of the article in the Trib.


Johnson went 11-10 with a 3.91 ERA for Arizona in 2008, with 173 strikeouts in 184 innings. He agreed to return to the Diamondbacks for considerably less than the $16 million he made in 2008, but negotiations fell through Thursday night and Johnson filed for free agency.

The obvious drawbacks? He's 45, has had back surgery three times and gives up the long ball on occasion.

Despite all that, Johnson finished sixth in the National League with 8.46 strikeouts per nine innings and third with a 3.93-1 strikeouts-walks ratio. He was 5-3 with a 2.41 ERA in the second half, and the bullpen blew four of his leads
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I think he'll be the 2009 equivalent of 2005 Jeremy Burnitz

An incentive-laden contract is fine I guess, as long as they get a considerable improvement in RF.
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Under a few conditions I can see Randy Johnson making sense: Johnson has to be the #5 starter. That would mean Marquis would have been traded away. ..... Sean Marshall is still on the team in a long relief role. He'd also be insurance incase Johnson and his 45 year old body break down. ..... The contract is incentive-laden and very reasonable.
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I'd rather the job go to Marshall. We already have him, he's cheap and not 50 years old.
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I'd rather the job go to Marshall. We already have him, he's cheap and not 50 years old.
You know what Doba, you're right! The Cubs should just give Marshall his chance at the 5 spot in the rotation already. I can see him being a 12-13 game winner next season. Plus he's a lot cheaper option.
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I'm afraid big jim doesnt know a good thing when he see's it....Marshall will probably be trade bait.
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I would be happy with either Marshall or the Unit as a #5. However, right now we have a #1 Z
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Marquis who will be traded or released
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We still need a lefty out of the pen and Howry is finished so....
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I like Marshall alot, but here's a look at his IP by year 2003-2007
81,71,94, 149 (shutdown at end of season), 134

compared to Rich Hill over the same time frame
97,109,154,199,195

It's clear the Cubs are being very careful with Marshall. Whether it's because of past mistakes with pitchers in the minors (Brownlie, Guzman,Justin Jones) or something with Marshall I guess we don't really know.

Marshall's going to have good value with this team. Personally I would like to keep him, but we'll see. Even if he is filling in for 15-20 starts a year for Harden or others, he still is a huge commodity to this team, and he's obviously the best LH out of the pen right now anyway.
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i think that it would be good to have someone on the team that has been there done that
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Harden , Johnson , How many fifth starters can we have ? I would be willing to bet the bullpen would pitch more innings then the both of them.
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